How Anthropic’s product team moves faster than anyone else | Cat Wu (Head of Product, Claude Code)

I think it is very hard to be the right amount of AGI pill. It's very easy to build the product for the super AGI strong model. The hard thing is figuring out for the current model, how do you elicit the maximum capability. I've never seen anything like the pace you folks at Anthropic are shipping at. We wanna remove every single barrier to shipping things. The timelines for a lot of our product features have gone down from six month to one month and sometimes to even one day. You're interviewing hundreds of PMs and you just keep feeling like they're approaching it very incorrectly. The PM role is changing a lot. It's changing really quickly. The thing that is extremely important for building AI native products is iterating so quickly, figuring out a way for you to actually launch features every single week. What do you think are the emerging skills PMs need to develop? It comes back to product taste. As code becomes much cheaper to write, the thing that becomes more valuable is deciding what to write.

Today, my guest is Cat Wu, head of product for Cloud Code and co work at Anthropic. Cat is at the center of everything that is changing in AI and product and building, and she and her team are building the product that is most changing the way that we all build our products. She is so full of insights and wisdom and lessons. This is an episode you cannot miss. Before we get into it, don't forget to check out lenny'sproductpass.com for an insane set of deals available exclusively to Lenny's newsletter subscribers. With that, I bring you Kat Wu. Kat, welcome to the podcast. Thanks for having me. I have so many questions. I'm so excited to have you on this podcast. I wanna start with giving people an understanding of your role alongside Boris. Everybody knows Boris. This he's his episode is the number one most popular episode on this podcast. No pressure. He created Claude Code, he leads the Eng team, ships a bazillion PRs a day from his phone, just like, I don't even know what the number is anymore. I think people don't give you enough credit for the success that Claude Code has had and co work and all the things you all are building. Help us understand your role on the team, how you work with Boris, how you split responsibilities. Just like what does the PMR look like on on the Claude Code team? I feel very lucky to work with Boris. He's been an amazing thought partner.